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This thread will largely deal with what powers the BB Pirates do have, and what powers they may have in the future. At the end of each section, I’ll briefly outline which strawhat will face each character and why as best as I can.​ Let’s begin.

BLACKBEARD’S FINAL FRUIT: RISE OF THE DARK PHOENIX

It’s simple. BB will get a third fruit. There are many indications. His belt has 3 guns in it. His Jolly Roger has 3 skulls on it. As we know, the Jolly Roger of the pirates tend to represent distinguishing features of the captain. So why is it that BB’s Jolly Roger has 3 skulls? BB doesn’t have 3 heads. The 3 skulls are indicative of BB not being one individual, but 3 separate individuals. Thus,
he will get a 3rd fruit at some point.

Why Blackbeard doesn’t already have a 3rd fruit?

Simple. He’s been on board WB’s ship for nearly 20 years. In all that time, it’s kind of ridiculous to believe that he somehow never once was forced to use its power. Or that someone didn’t figure it out. BB has been simply waiting for the Yami Yami no mi. And he speaks about it as the fruit that chose him, because he was already aware that it was very likely that his body, gave him the ability to house multiple fruits and he was just waiting for the perfect fruit to do so.

By him putting such an emphasis on getting the Yami Yami no mi, it means he was definitely not going to eat any other fruit while he waited for it. He even said he would just give up if it never came along.
THAT fruit is like the one and only thing he needed to begin moving to conquer the world and I don’t think Oda would undermine how much importance BB placed on getting it,
by retroactively revealing that he had one all along.

Blackbeard’s 2nd fruit and how his years onboard Whitebeard’s ship have influenced him:

It’s important to look at BB’s choice for his second fruit. It says a lot about him as a character. As much as he is an evil guy, BB clearly respected Whitebeard immensely. He just didn’t put Whitebeard’s morals ahead of his own goals. But he still chose to take Whitebeard’s fruit as his second fruit. He could have just killed ace and stolen Ace’s power, but BB chose Whitebeard’s because he had spent enough time around the man to know it’s awesome power.

But there are fruits out there even more broken, such as Law’s or Kuma’s. In many ways, BB’s unique perspective on the WB crew means that if he’s on an ability hunt, then he definitely will put capturing Marco’s and Jozu’s fruit on a high priority list. He knows their worth and the way they work,
and likely even their limitations.

Thus, I come to the declaration of BB’s final fruit. Blackbeard will get Marco’s fruit.

Why Blackbeard needs the power of the Phoenix to be the strongest?

Again, all you have to do is look at the limitations of BB’s current fruit. The Yami Yami no mi, despite its hax effect on other DFs, also comes at a cost. Increased and unavoidable damage intake. With that fruit in his arsenal, BB would never be able to avoid damage like another logia, EVEN if he got another logia fruit.
He has to take in the damage. Thus, a third fruit would have to correct this flaw somehow and the Phoenix fruit fills that nicely. Since he can’t avoid damage, having a power that makes the damage taken irrelevant, makes him the perfect DF user.

As a final challenge in the series, it really puts him on a pedestal that would seem completely insurmountable. Even now, with two fruits, Kaidou is considered the Strongest Thing in the World. So, two fruits isn’t enough to be the strongest and BB himself says he wishes to be the strongest. His power hunger will push him to want to take as much power as he can, but he’s shown more than enough cunning and patience to select the right fruit he needs. And I feel he will obtain Marco’s fruit in the future.

Blackbeard’s other “special” skill:

Now here is where I get a little theoretical. I believe somehow, BB was born with, or somehow came to have, 3 separate/split souls all fighting for control. Hence why we had that picture of when he was young, with BB crying. I believe these separate souls fought constantly, like voices in his head. Tormenting young BB.

But more importantly, I believe this gives BB a unique skill against Haki users. With 3 separate/split souls, a haki user reading BB’s presence thus picks up 3 separate presences. And it’s not just haki users, but people with just good instincts can also sense it. That’s why others talk about his atypical body. It’s why he seems to shift from cowardly to pure evil in an instant. Why Luffy and Zoro said he was not “he”, but “them”.

This skill is what allowed him to slash Shanks. Shanks being a haki user predicted BB, but got three different predictions or struggled to get the right one. This means BB poses a particular hard challenge for a haki user to beat because you never know which presence you are reading and which one you should pay attention too.

I also think this gives BB the unique skill to hide the strength of his spirit, so he can’t be read like how Luffy read Inuarashi and Fujitora. But more importantly, he could have a super strong spirit within him that he completely hides, a spirit with incredible strength of willpower, maybe even befitting a “D”. It would explain how he hurt Shanks if he faced a strong haki user like Shanks,
and had no choice but to show his strongest spirit in that confrontation. I feel we will learn more about this when we finally get to Shanks.

So to summarize, BB will have the Yami Yami no Mi, the Gura Gura no mi, the Tori Tori no mi: Model Phoenix, and a powerful and unpredictable level of haki because of his three separate souls. Making him a very powerful EoS villain. We know he’s gonna face Luffy so it’s important that Luffy gains the following skills to counter BB.​

Skills Luffy needs to take him on:​

JESUS BURGESS: GOLD DIAMOND STANDARD WRESTLER

Just like BB will take Marco’s fruit, he will gift his 1st Division Commander Jozu’s fruit.

Why would Burgess choose this fruit in particular?

He can put this fruit to similar use as Jozu. Physically, they are built remarkably similar. Very physically strong and resilient. But more importantly, Diamond’s natural properties would definitely appeal to Burgess. Especially now. Diamonds are naturally the hardest thing around, but Diamonds are also good heat conductors. It takes about 3550 degrees Celsius to melt a Diamond. However, they can still be burnt, don’t get me wrong, but for someone who received a thrashing from a certain Revolutionary, getting a fruit that can handle high temperature may appeal to Burgess. Just saying.

Other than that, I don’t expect anything that major from Burgess. Just all about physical power and durability. He’s not complicated a fighter. He’s the guy who jumps up and throws a house at a Logia, even though he knows that wouldn’t do Jack Shit. So, he gets a simple power. Can you imagine him using something as complicated as the Ope Ope no Mi? LOL.

So then who does he face? He faces the person in the Strawhat crew who uses heat the most and he would thus be a strong obstacle to overcome. Obviously I’m talking about Sanji. Sanji developed Diable Jamble to penetrate the defenses of CP9’s Tekkai. I think facing an enemy who has such a formidable defense that needs piercing with an even higher heat, pushes Sanji to new levels and he could thus improve Diable Jamble even more then. Devil Leg Sanji, the man with kicks as hot as the flames of hell.

Also, I believe Sanji will learn Hasshoken, another technique with vibrations that is used to penetrate defenses and armour and what not. Suits Sanji. His intense heat and vibration techniques would be just what the Doctor ordered to kick through Diamond Burgess like Butter. Obviously he still has to get hot enough an Burgess has haki and stuff to counter. A good fight all around. And I know what you are saying. “Burgess is so slow, Sanji needs a test of speed like Lafitte” Sanji’s test of speed will come with facing Kizaru more likely. This will be a test of Sanji’s power.

Oh and poor Burgess. Can’t catch a break. Users of fire keep screwing him over.

SHILIEW OF THE RAIN: THE UNQUENCHABLE BLOODLUST

Will he get a Devil Fruit in the future?

I don’t believe Shiliew will get any DFs in the future. I get this feeling from him at least that he is a true swordsman, just like Zoro. It sets up their rivalry better if they parallel. Just one thing I want to address. There is this idea that because he is the 2nd division captain, BB will give Burgess the Phoenix fruit and give him the Diamond fruit and Zoro’s challenge would be to cut Diamond, paralleling with his cutting of steel fight with Daz Bones. I for one think Shiliew is a much cooler fighter than that.

He doesn’t seem like the type to rely on a fruit to make him impervious to other swordsmen. I think he will be a physical monster, powerful haki and strong will. I actually think his haki armour
may already be harder than diamond and no fruit would help him there. While for Burgess, we have already seen his haki isn’t the best. He’s only learned it in the last two years after all. What is more interesting to me is what blade he will fight with.

What sword does Shiliew have?

Shiliew has shown a strong bloodlust and he loves to cut. Recall that Zoro’s Sandai Kitetsu cut, as Zoro said, on its own at Whiskey Peak. Therefore, if he doesn’t already have it, which I don’t think he does, Shiliew will come across this blade and will have the Shondai Kitetsu, the first and most powerful of the Kitetsu blades. You pair the sword with the strongest bloodlust, with a man that loves to cut and you have a dangerous combination. By then, I expect Zoro to have the Nidai Kitetsu so it would be a battle of cursed blade users.

This is all pretty obvious anyways, like I said, these two would be pretty simple. Now unto to someone a little more interesting.

LAFFITTE: HEAVEN’S DARK EMISSARY

What do we know currently about Laffitte’s powers?

For one thing he has wings, as seen here:

He can also hypnotize people presumably through sound of some kind. As seen from this panel.

Take special note of the Marine seemingly falling victim to some kind of sound. I think that is key to how Laffitte fights.

So his skills include:​

What Devil Fruit does Laffitte have?

There are two strong contenders and I will link both of them to my title for Laffitte. They are:

Let me just first address the Dove possibility. I think it’s kind of weak. Yes the wings are very reminiscent of a dove, but so are Angel wings and I can’t see a dove being that powerful. It would probably be imo the weakest possible bird zoan you could have. It isn’t even a predator, so no dangerous talons. Nothing. Weak fruit. Even with haki. It is however commonly associated with the Christian faith imagery. With doves being depicted as birds of peace and love. A dove bringing the Olive Branch to Noah etc. But, I don’t think it’s strong enough on its own for BB to take an interest in him as seen BB rejected Bonney and I would say her fruit is better than Laffitte.

So I will state that Laffitte doesn’t have one of the 5 Tori Tori fruits. He has a Hito Hito no mi: Model:Angel. A mythical Zoan and this gives him supernatural powers.

The power of an Angel:

Angels are known for being immortal, able to traverse the immaterial and spiritual realm at will, and gain Superhuman physical stats. So for Laffitte, I’m theorizing that he will be able to become incorporeal.
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As such, Laffitte in his fully transformed state would be immune to being touched. Could pass through objects unharmed. An even greater level of damage avoidance than a Logia. As he isn’t actually linked to this world. He can traverse both. I believe he will also be able to wield a special spiritual energy only he can use. Similar to Brooke. Angels are also said to be tremendous singers with perfect voices. Laffitte might be able to use this as well to hypnotize. At this point, you should already be able to tell where I’m pushing his matchup. It feels so natural. A Heavenly being vs one who has returned from the Underworld.Laffitte will fight Brooke and the two music-using, cane-sword-wielding, spiritually-existing entities will fight it out.

VAN AUGUR: THE SUPERSONIC

I love this guy. One of my favourite characters. I think Snipers are cool as shit. What can I say? But since his fight is against Usopp, I don’t expect anything too crazy for his strength. Usopp after all is destined to be in the lower rung of the Strawhat Power scale. He’ll be fast, really fast, with a ridiculously powerful weapon. And he will undoubtedly specialize in Observation Haki. Anyone can guess that. But this wouldn’t be a theory worth its salt if I didn’t at least try lol.

Van Augur’s Weapon: Liquor Iron Ore shows it’s worth?

Van Augur’s gun, Senriku (Thousand Lands), I believe is the first Liquor Iron Ore weapon in the series. I believe Liquor Iron Ore resembles its name for a reason. I believe it is literally a “Drunk” Metal. A steel that instead of resisting force, absorbs force because its structure allows the molecules more freedom to flex and warp when under duress. Liquor Iron Ore will be able to withstand great instances of force and hold its shape because it won’t try to resist the force it will flows with the force and let it move its internal structure while still maintaining its bonds.

This metal was used to make the Marines Encircling Wall at Marineford, and Whitebeard couldn’t break it because of this quality. With such a shock absorbant and resistant metal, guns can be fashioned out of it that have way more power than ordinary weapons. For instance, you couldn’t put a C4 explosive in a hand gun as a propellant for the bullet instead of Gunpowder, because the gun wouldn’t be able to stay together once you triggered it. It would explode; you and the gun.

With Liquor Iron Ore, this is not a problem. The material is so shock absorbent, guns can be made with way more power and produce way more powerful shots and still hold their shape and even allow amazing accuracy and maybe even lack of kick back. Thus, this weaponry is very rare in the New World and a wanted commodity for snipers everywhere. Van Augur has such a weapon and with reinforcement from haki, could probably even fire off more powerful shots, accurately and from dozens of miles away.
This dude obviously faces Usopp

DOC Q: THE FOURTH APOCALYPTIC HORSEMAN, “DEATH”

This is one character where I think the depictions directly relate to the best approximation of his fighting style. I’m not sure if he has a DF. I’m not sure if he will get one. Frankly speaking it’s impossible to guess. However, his design directly mirrors almost exactly to the Horseman of Death from the Bible.

I believe Doc Q will not be a physical fighter. Instead he will be a tactician type fighter. We saw his apples that exploded and others that were just regular apples. We see his sickness and his horse’s sickness.
We have seen his scythe. I believe he will embody the four skills of the Horseman of Death.

Using his doctor skills, he has made himself a carrier of death wherever he goes. I believe he is always sick because through experiments he has infected himself with many dangerous viruses and he is constantly treating himself to stay alive. He spreads sickness by infecting those he comes into contact with with a virus that I assume he can activate when he feels like. Whoever fights him will be in a battle for an antidote that I assume only he has.

How will Stronger factor into this?

Stronger is a bit of a wild card. He could easily have a DF and not stray from Doc Q’s theme. It is said the 4th horseman spreads disaster through the Wild Beasts and I believe he will use his horse as such. His horse is also infected by his diseases and he will use drugs to push Stronger and himself physically to temporary new heights. A medicinal augmentation. But his goal isn’t to surpass people with powerful physical strength, it’s to spread his diseases which will be the main way he fights. Wearing down his opponent gradually and delivering the final blow with his scythe.

Will he ever get a DF?

As I said before, it’s hard to tell if he has one already or even if he wants one. Right now, I’d say it won’t make much difference. His design is really well realized towards the horseman already that I don’t see a DF changing it that much. Unlike the Level 6 prisoners, he isn’t that much of a blank slate. So I’ll leave him at that.

Due to the tactical nature of his fruit, I will give his fight to Nami reluctantly, with the cop out option for a new nakama not yet met.
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AVALO PIZARRO: THE TRUE KING OF THE JUNGLE

I’ll start by quoting his description from the wiki and highlighting what I think are important clues.
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Avalo will have the Neko Neko no mi Model: Sabretooth Cat

This fits with his cat theme and his name “The Corrupt King”. Lions are knows as the King of the jungle. Note, he could very well just have a lion zoan, but I wanted to get a little creative.

What about his arms? Why would Oda obscure them?

I definitely believe that they are important as well. I believe Avalo lost his fore arms or had them badly damaged at some point and he has had them technologically enhanced or even replaced. I believe his hands are now cyborg weapons and I believe next time we see him, he may eve have further upgrades.

Avalo Pizarro will be a cybernetic enhanced Zoan type user and his opponent will be Franky

CATARINA DEVON:THE CRESCENT MOON HUNTRESS

We know next to nothing about Catarina except she’s considered one of the most dangerous female prisoners of the current generation and her title is “Crescent Moon Hunter”. So my theory will totally be based on this.

Symbolism of the Crescent Moon:
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Using this idea, I’m going to postulate her DF.Catarina Devon has the Yume Yume no mi, or Dream-Dream fruit.

She uses this fruit to create a Dream World that she traps her opponents in with a Moon in the sky that never ends and within that world, she hunts you using her formidable power and strength. It allows her to use magic within it and summon other abilities. Within this dream, she controls all.

It is a fruit of the same class as Law’s Ope Ope no mi, but not one that is tied to what is real. Instead it creates its own real within its range. Thus she is called the Crescent Moon Hunter because she uses her powers to hunt opponents in an illusory world with a moon. As the moon slowly eclipses the person inside comes closer to their death. Starting at a Full Moon and going closer and closer to a New Moon.

VASCO SHOT: THE HEAVY DRINKER

Vasco Shot will have the power of the Jelly Jelly fruit. A Logia Class DF that turns the user into Jelly. However, because he drinks so much alcohol, his jelly has high levels of alcohol in it that gives it an intoxicating effect on people that he traps within it. Thus, allowing him to use his weapon to kill the person. He will have haki and be always drunk. The strawhat who will take him on has not yet joined.

SAN JUAN WOLF: COLOSSAL BATTLESHIP

His powers are exactly as advertised. He is a big giant. Power, strength, durability Size. I don’t expect anything fromt his guy DF wise. Maybe haki wise, but not even sure that’s necessary. So instead, I’ll just state ehy Chopper is facing him in my matchups.

Monster Point is a foreshadowing of Chopper’s EoS powerup. Besides awakening, Chopper when he used 3 rumbles now causes extreme growth. That is in short, a version of Giantification that Vegapunk and Caesar are working on. So besides Monster Point, through experience with Caesar and the kids, Vegapunk eventually and when we get to Elbaf, I think Chopper will eventually master a Giant Rumble ball that can transform him into a Giant and using that, he fights San Juan 1 on 1.

And now we are done.

THE MATCHUPS AGAINST THE STRAWHATS

So, I’m done now. Hope you guys enjoyed. Have a nice day and discuss.

*Theory by TheConqueror