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KAIDO VS DRAGON? 9 DRAGON DEVIL FRUITS?

Kaido and Dragon’s potential devil fruits?

So apparently there are strict guidelines to whats considered a theory and whats not and i couple i’ve put up here have been moved to speculation, this mainly consists of parallels and minor details/facts that let me form it.

Also, if you’re lazy, i made a video of this like a month back, watch that for a more summarized version (please note this thread is much more refined with more detail)

Anyway, onto the theory. (somewhat based off video script)

So as soon as we saw Momo’s artificial devil fruit the Dragon-Dragon fruit was essentially confirmed, although people certainly would be dissapointed if it didn’t exist. As it is stated and fact that Momo has a Chinese dragon adf, we can assume that it is based off something and they were attempting to replicate it. There has also been a lot of debate about who has the real dragon fruit, the 2 main candidates being Kaido and Monkey D. Dragon.

As we all know Oda incorporates a lot of real mythology into the story, we have seen some Persian, Indian, Greek and Japanese mythology so far, what i think is next in Chinese.

To make it short and sweet i believe that both Kaido and Dragon have Dragon df, but not elemental western dragons like people think, but offINDIVIDUAL dragons that are seen in Chinese mythology, here is why. I think that the devil fruit will be based off the Taoist lore of the 9 sons of the dragon king. Here are their names (modern).

  • Bi An
  • Bi Xi
  • Chao Feng
  • Chi Wen
  • Fu Xi
  • Pu Lao
  • Qiu Niu
  • Suan Ni
  • Ya Zi

There are a few parallels between characters we know about in One Piece with the 3 oldest Dragon’s. Here is a quote from the myth.

“Chiwen was one of the nine sons of the dragon. The Cloud Rider.When the dragon visited his children, the neighbors of his son Chiwen complained that all he did was stand atop rooftops and stare off into the distance. Thus, the dragon ordered that the image of Chiwen adorn the tops of buildings as a sentinel, searching the distance for signs of danger. Chiwen also loved poetry.”

Also, according to the legend, Chi-Wen himself was saved from starvation by a human and said human will be important later.

Now, i think that Momonosuke has the artificial version of the Chi-Wen fruit. Firstly because Momo is “a cloud rider” just like Chi-Wen

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Momo also loves poetry, as shown when he told Brook to sing him a song (couldn’t find scan ;/)
and lastly, Luffy saved Momo when he was down in the cavern and got Sanji to cook him food, technically saving him from starvation, just as the Human did for Chi-Wen. He also looks similar to a drawing of Chiwen

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I also believe that Kaido has the fruit of Ya-Zi, the dark dragon. Here are 2 more extracts.”

“Yazi was the second of the nine sons of the dragon. The Darkness Rider. People complained openly about him, as he bellowed all day, and he scared them. When his father received news of these complaints, he recognized that Yazi was a warrior and would be excellent at military work, especially as this dragon enjoyed killing.”

“As the second oldest born, he was always the most ambitious of his brothers but with his strong body he was always expected to outlive the others.”

Yazi is engraved on a lot of chinese blades.

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We know Kaido is ruthless, ambitious, strong and warlike. Its starting to look awful similar. However here is the bit that convinced me that Oda could be basing Kaido, Dragon and Momo/Real user of his fruit off this Taoist-Chinese myth.

Last but not least i believe that Dragon has the Bi-An devil fruit, here is the final extract.

“Bian the oldest of the nine sons of the dragon. The Fire Rider. Unlike his siblings, there was no complaint lodged against him by his neighbors. Some claim that his ferocity earned him his position supervising doorways to great prisons. Others claim that his rebellious nature and constant drive of justice made him a candidate for the job for ensuring a lack of corruption and making sure the guilty remained inside.”

Another very accurate parallel to what we know about Dragon, he hates the corrupt WG he has his own sense of justice, hence he is trying to overthrow the horrible govt. About the prison guarding, that could be something else, but best save that for potentially another theory.

Bi-An

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Here is where i was convinced.

In the story, Ya-Zi is fed up with how his brother runs the prisons and plans to overthrow him, he strands his brother Chi-Wen on an island and leaves him to starve, he then goes back and challenges Bi-An. They are equally matched and fight till a standstill. However, Chi-Wen returns with the aid of a strange human that helped him. With Chi-Wen’s aid, Bi-An manages to defeat Ya-Zi and put him in the prison for a long time.

Bi-An vs Ya-Zi

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That concludes this particular story. (There are other myths based around the other 7 dragons.)

Here is what i think is going to happen. Both Dragon and Kaido have devil fruit based off individual dragons from Taoist mythology, Momonosuke has the cloud rider dragon fruit of Chi-Wen (Artificial) Kaido has the darkness rider fruit of Ya-Zi (real) and Dragon has the fire rider fruit of Bi-An. I think that Dragon will be attacked by Kaido after (or perhaps during) the fight with Blackbeard (its also possible Dragon avoids that fight altogether) in order to take over some of the land and powerful prisoners that the revolutionary army has in their possession, they will engage Kaido to a standstill until the LufLaw alliance attacks Kaido, giving the revs the opportunity to take him down.

One loophole would be the REAL Chi-Wen fruit user, one thing i thought off was that he could be either Raizou or the Shogun of Wano. It would be fitting if Shogun was actually his father (alpha2late17 theory) and he had the real Chi-Wen fruit. Also, if in the unlikely event this comes true, i’ll start on a theory for the other 6 dragons immediately.

This is probably my biggest theory and i put a lot of work into it, so plz don’t rip me apart ;(
Thanks for reading. ;D

*Theory by AnimeTheoriesHQ

    Trafalgar Law, Eustass Kid, Doflamingo & Bellamy Historical Connections

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    Edward Low: Captain EdwardNedLow born around 1690 into poverty in London. His wife died in childbirth in late 1719. Two years later, he became a pirate He captained a number of ships, usually maintaining a small fleet of three or four, burned most of his captured ships, captured about 100. Remains notorious as one of the most vicious pirates of the age, a man of “amazing and grotesque brutality.” When in a rage he resorted to decapitated, burning people alive, forcing them to eat limbs he cut off, etc. he was never caught, ending his days in Brazil.

    Eustace Monk: Born in 1170, studied black magic, lived in a monastery for awhile, then left to avenge his murdered father, burning the man’s property down. He then became a pirate in the English channel. Was outlawed at times by England and France, Started up a large band of pirates called the Eustace Brother. Made a home base on one of the channel islands. Would often turn against allies and kingdoms he was allied with.

    William Kidd: Some historians argue that his piratical reputation unjust, as there is only evidence that Kidd was a privateer. Kidd’s fame springs largely from the sensational circumstances of his questioning before the English Parliament and the ensuing trial. He thought the ship he was taking was an enemy ship but it was not and so it was deemed piracy by the English and he was tried. As his trial ensued his friends deserted him. He was also accused of murdering his crew member when in truth the member was committing mutiny and Kidd was in the right. He is best known for being one of the only pirates to bury his treasure and did so before coming into port and being arrested as he did not want the Governor to have it. If it were not for his wealthy noble backers, who wished to remain anonymous at all costs and to distance themselves from Kidd in any way possible, his contacts probably would have saved him.

    Samuel Bellamy: English pirate in early 18th century is crew captured at least 53 ships under his command. Bellamy became known for his mercy and generosity toward those he captured on his raids. He was part of a mutiny on Captain Hornigold’s ship, Hornigold left Marianne with his loyal followers, including Teach. The remaining 90-man crew then elected Bellamy as captain. He liked expensive clothes, especially black coats. His favorite weapons were four dueling pistols that he always carried in the sash. His captain rules were almost democratic. His crew liked him a lot and sometimes even called him “Robin Hood of the Sea”. Captain Bellamy was also a good strategist. His ship was quick and agile.

    Dominique You: A French Privateer and Politician, You was falsely convicted of piracy in the gulf, but the Americans failed to capture him. He had reputation for being very bold and daring. He was pardoned by American for helping them in their war against Britain. He preyed on preyed on Spanish ships. Did meet up and work with Lafitte for a time.

    *by elizabethober

      Usopp’s garden

      SBS Volume 68 Usopp Pop Greens

      D: Oioioioioioi, good day to you. Usopp’s got those “pop greens” and all, but what would he do if they ever ran out? P.N. Girls with short hair are the best ♡

      Usopp's_Garden_of_Pop_Greens

      O: Right. I’ve been getting this question a lot, for a while now. I thought about showing the answer in the actual comics, but I haven’t had that sort of chance. There’s actually a scene concerning this in the screenplay of the movie, “Film Z”, which comes out in December. Everyone was worried because what he shoots are seeds, right? But it’s alright. At the back of Sunny-Go, Usopp made a flower bed called “Usopp’s Garden” where he mass produces pop greens. There’s a scene in the movie where he’s spraying insecticide, so those of you who see it can confirm. I’d like to include something about it in the comic as well.

        Sanji, Zoro, Franky & Shakuyaku Historical Connections

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        Francois L’Olonnais: (1635-1668) was a French buccaneer, pirate and privateer who attacked Spanish ships and towns in the 1660’s. His hatred for the Spanish was legendary and he was known as a particularly bloodthirsty and ruthless pirate. After two or three expeditions, the Governor of Tortuga gave him his own ship. L’Olonnais, now a captain, continued attacking Spanish shipping and acquired a reputation for cruelty so great that the Spanish often preferred to die fighting than to suffer torture as one of his captives.

        Madame Cheng: She challenged the empires of the time, such as the British, Portuguese and the Qing dynasty. Undefeated, she would become one of China and Asia’s strongest pirates, and one of world history’s most powerful pirates. She was also one of the few pirate captains to retire from piracy. Ching Shih went back to Canton with her young son and opened a gambling house.

        “Red Legs” Greaves: When he was a boy, his parents died in slavery the master shortly after,  and the orphaned boy was sold to another man who was claimed to have been violent and to have often beaten Greaves as a teenager. He escapes his servitude and successfully managed to swim across a bay stowing away on a what he thought was a merchant ship ship preparing to leave Barbados, it was a pirate ship. He signed up.Eventually became Captain, fought and beat the other captain.Greaves rewrote the Ship’s Articles, specifically prohibiting the mistreatment of prisoners and allowing the surrender of merchant captains during battle. Throughout the decade, Greaves found great success as well as gaining a reputation as an honorable captain widely known for his humane treatment of prisoners and never participating in the raiding of poor coastal villages. Greaves was able to retire from piracy and settled down to the life of a gentleman farmer.

        Cutty Sark: A British Clipper ship she was one of the last tea clippers to be built and one of the fastest, coming at the end of a long period of design development which halted as sailing ships gave way to steam propulsion. The Cutty Sark was destined for the tea trade, then an intensely competitive race across the globe from China to London. Cutty Sark was ordered by shipping magnate John Willis, who operated a shipping company founded by his father.This was a highly competitive price for an experimental, state-of-the-art vessel, and for a customer requiring the highest standards. Payment would be made in seven installments as the ship progressed, but with a penalty of £5 for every day the ship was late.

        *by elizabethober

          Now I understand why Sengoku smiles :D

          I understand why sengoku smiles now lol

            Blackbeard, Whitebeard and Thatch Connections

            Blackbeard’s real name was Edward Teach he was called Thatch until he became Captain of his own pirate ship and created Blackbeard.

            In One Piece Marshall D Teach, Thatch, and Edward Newgate (whitebeard) all trace back to Edward Teach, Blackbeard is know as Teach until he murders Thatch and leaves that name, becoming Blackbeard with the killing of Whitebeard no longer “Teach”

            blackbeard_unraveling_the_history_by_elizabethober-d7in03a

              Oda revealed the inspirations on which Dressrosa is based

              D: Hello, Mr. Oda! I noticed that Dressrosa was based on our home in Spain, so I decided to send you this letter as the speaker of our group. Why did you choose Spain? If you ever have reason to visit Spain, I hope you visit Barcelona’s Saló del Manga (a Catalan manga/anime convention). Nothing to be afraid of! Our women don’t stab you! P.N. Voice of the Pirate King

              Immagin

              O: This is a condensed version of a letter I received from Spain. The Japanese was strange in a few places, so I think that must have come from one of those auto-translation sites. Thanks for the letter. You’re right about Dressrosa. It’s based on Spain, and Ancient Greece for the Colosseum parts.

              SBS72 5 Doflamingo

              When I took a close look at Doflamingo and tried to think of what country is suited him. I arrived at the conclusion of Spain. I’ve mentioned the lands of One Piece being inspired by real-life countries in the SBS before, but it’s the first time I got feedback from the residents of the country. I can’t be irresponsible in the way I draw, but if you do see anything that seems like a half-baked version of your culture or buildings, please forgive me. Remember, it’s just a manga.

                That’s how Oda draws female characters’ body

                D: Nice to meet you. This is sudden, but… please teach us a tip or two on how to draw that hawt hourglass body all ONE PIECE female characters seem to have! Make sure you don’t forget to include them airbags ♡

                P.N. If there’s no bread, let them eat roses~

                O: Yes. Hello. It’s drawing time at the SBS segment. I would suggest that you think of a woman’s proportions as “three circles, one X”. Now if you’ll excuse me, I’ll be leaving.

                (I only draw this kind of body, so I get a lot of complaint postcards from my female audience. Let’s all stay strong and keep on living life.)

                Immagine

                  Oda revealed who in the Straw Hat Pirates can use Haki

                  D: This might be out of nowhere, but who in the Straw Hat Pirates can use Haki? It’s bothering me and I can’t activate my “Love Hurricane”.

                  O: It’s these three. Their specialty haki color is in the parentheses.

                  SBS71_2_Straw_Hats_Haki_Users

                  *Luffy (Haoshoku Haki) *Zoro (Busoshoku Haki) *Sanji (Kenbunshoku Haki)

                    If Sanji gave a Plastic Surgery Shot to Trebol, Diamante and Pica…

                    D: Odacchi!! It’s so out of sudden, but give the top executives of the Donquixote Family, Trebol, Diamante and Pica, a plastic surgery shot by Sanji. I want to see all three being good-looking!! P.N. soft baka

                    Immagine

                    O: Yes

                    Immagine